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Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:56:58 -0000

Vinny,

I've only seen one of the deleted comments, which was preserved in Google's cache. As I previously noted, if it were me I would have left the comment up. I'd characterize that one as a constructive comment with a disrespectful tone; there's probably a better way to say "...go away. You're making a fool of yourself."

Then again, there are comments which, although they contain constructive content, cross the line in other ways. I had to delete one of these from my own blog post because, while the comment was constructive, the poster chose a user name that included a derogatory reference to the anatomy of a certain person. No matter what constructive point the person was making, the positive benefit was pretty much wiped out by the penis reference.

And heck, that's just my personal blog. Business blogs have different standards, and apparently FastCompany decided that "go away" was not the professional tone that they wanted to set.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:45:29 -0000

Heck, it takes courage to LISTEN. Some of us even fail to do that.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Vinny — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:22:46 -0000

I read a lot of those comments before they were deleted. The implication that they were anonymous or "hateful" or personal attacks is simply not true. One of the comments deleted made a very constructive point: Don't make the guest wait 4 minutes while you engage in forced uncomfortable looking banter. That was the entirety of the comment and it was deleted. You guys have every right to delete every single comment for any reason you want, but don't outwardly lie about the content of what you're deleting. Your assertion that it was all personal attacks is simply not true.

And just for the record, Vinny is my real name. I'm Vincent Ferrari. The guy who canceled his AOL account. I'm well-known enough that you can easily verify this is me. I'm not hiding behind anything or obscuring my true identity.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Steve Mann — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:54:06 -0000

Dennis Howlett and Allen Stern do not a community make...do you have any other feedback?

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Aaron Strout — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:39:58 -0000

Yeah, I have to disagree with you too @anon. I've done a couple of podcasts with Scoble and talked with him several times in person. I've also talked in depth with @rocmanusa who produces Scoble (without Scoble present) and he had nothing but nice things to say. BTW, why don't you man (or "woman") up and come out from behind your anonymous handle. It's easy to cast stones when there are no repercussions.

Aaron | @astrout

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:17:29 -0000

Disqus users may be interested in the question that I posed here.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:11:07 -0000

I spoke too soon. Just had to delete one of the comments because of the name that the commenter chose to use. Ah, the price of fleeting fame...

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:10:01 -0000

Clarification - as I noted above, I like to have comments that my daughter can read. Someone asked the question "Why did you delete my constructive comments?" I didn't have any problem with the question, but I did have a problem with the anatomical name the commenter chose to use. And again, this is me (Ontario Emperor), and not Robert Scoble or fastcompany.tv, that made this choice.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Jay Cuthrell — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:58:43 -0000

Hah! Paula Deen rocks.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:56:25 -0000

Just a note of clarification for those who don't realize it. These comments are associated with the mrontemp blog, which is not related in any way to fastcompany.tv. As such, they are subject to my comment moderation policy, and since this is not a business blog, I have more latitude here than a business comment area would have. I would like to keep the language in these comments such that my daughter can read them (this hasn't been a big problem, outside of my Pat Lampard post), but I have no objection to anonymous comments per se. Personally, I think that some of the "anon" comments speak for themselves... :)

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:52:01 -0000

Or maybe Paula Deen could be a co-host... :)

It sounds like some of the previous criticism indicated that the chat room seemed to be a distraction during the interview. So probably the less extra stuff the better - unless, of course, it fits in with the topic. For example, if Jane Doe is talking about the SuperWidget, then Jane and Robert could certainly use the SuperWidget during the program.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:46:49 -0000

JD, this blog is not moderated. I normally don't get this amount of comment traffic. However, as mentioned elsewhere, I use some Disqus features to control what goes in.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Jay Cuthrell — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:24:59 -0000

While the Tim Ferris interview was pretty lacking in substance initially -- I doubt that one interview was the sole reason behind any lineup changes. I could be naive of course.

I met Robert Scoble at SXSW and while my initial impression was hockey player or football player turned AV geek... I think he's better behind a camera than in front of one because he can control the flow. Rober Scoble in front of a camera it seems as though the shot is canned and might speak more about the lack of placement by a director or camera person.

I never met Shel Israel but he seemed as though he was thrust or forced into being in front of a camera.

Maybe Robert Scoble can incorporate cooking or something with the hands of him and guests. Like, an interview while something quick, easy, and healthy is whipped up in a kitchen. That would give everyone something to focus on while conversation trended away from mundane or centered around the moment before the meal. Concept: Fast Eats with Fast Company

Digg already does beer and Gary V does wine so maybe Robert Scoble can be the Emeril of Tech Internviews?

Before anyone laughs... this is what I mean by an effortless room

http://www.podtech.net/scob...

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

JD Lasica — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:56:31 -0000

It also happens not to be true.

Robert, fastcompany.tv should employ a filter so that those of us who don't have time for nonsense can filter out all comments posted anonymously, if that's possible.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

JD Lasica — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:53:03 -0000

You mean there are still some bloggers who *don't* moderate comments? I hold all mine for approval because of the incredible amount of spam and junk comments. Still looking for a solution to let them go live faster and to elevate the thoughtful ones.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:24:31 -0000

I can confirm that there are advantages to relative anonymity. At least you don't end up on puppet shows. :)

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Scobleizer — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:18:34 -0000

We won't allow comments from people who are obviously jerks. There's a line there somewhere and our team deleted two too many comments and in further review we put them back. Note that everyone who is complaining isn't signing their names here. That's the first signal that their claims aren't correct.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

platypibri — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:08:19 -0000

That's the kind of claim you need to back up with some facts. It's real easy to spew that kind of stuff out when your name's not attached. I think your just a hater.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Rick — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:04:52 -0000

"We deleted comments that were not constructive and a couple that were because our team was too aggressive in deleting comments"

Obviously Fast Company has no idea what they're doing.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

anon — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:50:44 -0000

Working with Scoble is frustrating. Try to find anyone who has worked with him to say anything "off the record" that is positive. He is a self-promoter with no regard for his coworkers and little for his clients.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

platypibri — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:24:53 -0000

Just so there is no confusion, I will also not be appearing on Workfast TV. I know this is disappointing (certainly to my mother), but the simple fact is, I really don't work fast, and therefore have no place on the show. Robert's a great guy(as far as I can tell), and I wish him all the success. And to all my fans, I don't believe you exist.
B

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Loren Heiny — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:53:16 -0000

I saw a comment by Robert Scoble before the last show indicating that there would be changes that some people would be interested in and was based on community feedback. If you were in his place would you say more publicly? I wouldn't. What goal would it serve? I'd just move on and focus on the next shows and making them better.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

Scobleizer — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:37:34 -0000

Why didn't we announce Shel's leaving? Because I don't believe in announcing people have left. Microsoft didn't announce it when I left, either. I made it very clear that there were some major changes to the show coming (I Twittered and FriendFeeded that several times on Thursday) and astute viewers could see for themselves what the changes were in live time and we even had an open live chat room after the show where people could have asked about the changes they saw (we made several changes to the latest WorkFastTV show).

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:35:05 -0000

Disqus allows blocking of certain text strings, which is helpful. The comments to this post on the death of Pat Lampard got ugly, but they could have gotten uglier if the text blocking wasn't in place.

Re: On Loren Feldman's statement about Shel Israel and FastCompany

ontarioemperor — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 15:31:05 -0000

I see that the comments pages now link to FastCompany's Terms of Service. Good step.